He promised me a ‘brawl’

My debate with a man who seems to be a cross between an animist and a deist.

About a week ago Aaron Fauth issued a challenge on Facebook

I was happy to accept the challenge, if only because I was intrigued by his complete misunderstanding of atheism and of atheists in general.

I invited him to join me in a discussion with the two basic conditions I always include:

  1. We both have the option to record it.
  2. We can both publish the video UNEDITED wherever we choose.

This video is the result of our recent online conversation. What’s your opinion? Did Aaron live up to his challenge?

That’s when the bastards got me!

The God of Abraham’s not a shit,
He’s just a myth that doesn’t fit,
The modern world because we know
Too much.

I wondered how I could have been so blind

Genocide and slavery

Gaslighting and rape

All sanctioned, even ordered

By this God of perfect love

Arbitrary punishments

Capricious twists of fate

Hypocrisy, failed prophecy,

Sadism and hate!

The devaluing of woman

Only useful when they breed

A receptacle for callous

Selfish men to sew their seed

And I realised in trembling fear

Shredding many a heartfelt tear

That this hateful God was far from good

No one with integrity could

Support its vile crimes

Suicide and Christian compassion

The superficial nonsense that passes for morality in the Christian worldview just won’t cut it in the real world of human distress and actual desperation.

Having spent the last 30 odd years of my life dealing with ACTUAL suicidal people – not the imaginary ‘armchair’ kind Dennis seems to be thinking of – I just had to respond.

The superficial nonsense that passes for morality in the Christian worldview just won’t cut it in the real world of human distress and actual desperation. The fact that Christian doctrine can add insult to injury so callously is just one more piece of evidence to demonstrate how utterly broken and immoral the Christian worldview truly is!

No moral morality

You invalidate humanity, Personify hypocrisy,
As hymn by hymn, And prayer by prayer,
You smugly sit, In your armchair,
While others do the work you claim,
Can only happen in your Jesus’ name.
Have you no shame?

You say I can’t be moral without God, ‘Cause I don’t pray.

Wittering about “Where the saints have trod”, Or so you say.

Denying my compassion, Like it’s going out of fashion,

You invalidate humanity, Personify hypocrisy,

As hymn by hymn, And prayer by prayer,

You smugly sit, In your armchair,

While others do the work you claim,

Can only happen in your Jesus’ name.

Have you no shame?

Crucifixion

Crucifixion as substitutionary atonement is barbaric and ridiculous. I want no part of it.

They tell me that their Jesus died for me. But that’s absurd. A scapegoat can’t pay the price for someone else’s sins. It’s barbaric and ridiculous and I want no part of it.

The Burden of proof

If I said I’d risen from the dead you’d say I’m playing games, If I claimed 500 witnesses you’d want to know their names.

If you want to convince me that something is true, If you’re making the claim then the burden’s on you. If I said I’d risen from the dead you’d say I’m playing games, If I claimed 500 witnesses you’d want to know their names. And if I said God wrote my diary, I’d anticipate inquiry. How you’d react to my diary, Is how your Bible seems to me. Of course, my diary’s bollocks, as you knew, As to the Bible, the burden of proof is on you!