1 In the beginning God got bored and created the heaven and the earth. He made it out of nothing, thus proving that out of nothing something comes, even if it takes a magic spell to do it.
Try suggesting that to your average Christian. They can’t tell you why Gandalf saying Abracadabra to defeat the Balrog is any different from God speaking the universe into existence but they still won’t admit that it’s magic!
Christians often claim that God doesn’t send anyone to Hell… we send ourselves!
Whenever we mention the injustice of infinite punishment for finite crimes, especially when the supposed ‘crime’ is simply not being convinced, it’s common for Christians to claim that God doesn’t send anyone to Hell… we send ourselves! This demonstrates one of two possibilities…
1. The Christian in question hasn’t read their Bible (an odd state of affairs given that they think it’s the inspired word of God).
2. The Christian in question is a liar!
Of course – it’s not uncommon for both these possibilities to apply equally.
Christians regularly impugn the characters of atheists without ever considering the implications of their own tactics
Whenever a Christian threatens you with Hell, no matter how smugly they do so it pays to consider just what they’re telling you about themselves. I don’t just mean the shameful delight they take in the prospect of another person’s suffering, that’s clear to anyone. I mean the implication of their choice of threat.
What does it tell you, tell the world about them when they suppose that threats of Hell will be enough to make you bow down before their imaginary God?
Christians regularly impugn the characters of atheists without ever considering the implications of their own tactics. When a Christian threatens you with Hell, what are they really telling you?
In what context could stoning a raped woman to death ever be justified?
In the Bible, Jesus tells us that God’s law shall never pass away until Heaven and earth are no more (Luke 16:17/Matthew 5:18). The Old Testament book of Deuteronomy literally translates as ‘the law repeated’. This law, the law of the old testament as written in the Hebrew bible (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy) is the only law that Jesus, a Jew would, could have been talking about. And so it is to Deuteronomy that we turn when asking how to deal with rape victims.
Luke and I don’t see eye to eye on very much but we do show that it’s possible to discuss and argue, passionately at times and still remain cordial and genial at the end.
This is a discussion/debate with Luke Villareal, an American Christian. We had a few technical problems resulting in fairly poor video quality on my end and no image at all from Luke. However that beats our first attempt during which we couldn’t get anything to record at all.
The rule was that we both get to record it and we both can publish it online as we see fit but without any edits. There is one small edit in the original where I cut out about a minute of ‘dead air’ whilst I attended to my dog. Other than that the video is completely unedited.
Luke and I don’t see eye to eye on very much but we do show that it’s possible to discuss and argue, passionately at times and still remain cordial and genial at the end. Let us know in the comments what you thought of the points raised and especially let us know if either Luke or I managed to change your mind about anything.
God wants us to use our brains – the brains that He gave us
A friend of mine seems to think that I’m channelling the words of God. I don’t.
I don’t believe God is real but I’m going with it anyway because I promised her that I would. Here’s the second pronouncement for what it’s worth.
God wants us to use our brains – the brains that He gave us. He wants scientists to continue to uncover the mechanism of His creation and He wants the religious to stop pretending it’s not true.