Debate and discussion – Page 2

When Christians lie

How should we react when Christians lie about us whilst simultaneously claiming the moral high ground?

I don’t imagine many people will be surprised to learn that Christians are just as capable of dishonesty as every other group of people. We’re all human and humans are fallible, after all. But how should we react when they lie about us whilst simultaneously claiming the moral high ground and insisting that non-Christians can’t understand morality?

What should the result be when the smug Christian conveniently forgets the commandment not to bear false witness against his neighbour?

In this case the liar in question, an American right wing Christian (a group disproportionately heavy with liars, in my experience) lied about me online and named me, even using deliberately selective screenshots to enhance his deception. The stupid thing is that it was so completely unnecessary. Just a cheap shot of the sort you’d expect to find in a school playground. Certainly not worthy of adult discourse.

I’m retaliating appropriately. I’ve decided to tell the true story on line, complete with screenshots that show the larger conversation and that explain the real story of what happened between me and Luke Villarreal.

Yes, it’s petty.

No, it’s not my finest moment but it is honest, unlike Luke and it’s only a few minutes long.

Go on – learn the truth about yet another Christian #lyingforJesus. You know you want to!

Discussion with Luke, an American Christian

Luke and I don’t see eye to eye on very much but we do show that it’s possible to discuss and argue, passionately at times and still remain cordial and genial at the end.

This is a discussion/debate with Luke Villareal, an American Christian. We had a few technical problems resulting in fairly poor video quality on my end and no image at all from Luke. However that beats our first attempt during which we couldn’t get anything to record at all.

The rule was that we both get to record it and we both can publish it online as we see fit but without any edits. There is one small edit in the original where I cut out about a minute of ‘dead air’ whilst I attended to my dog. Other than that the video is completely unedited.

Luke and I don’t see eye to eye on very much but we do show that it’s possible to discuss and argue, passionately at times and still remain cordial and genial at the end. Let us know in the comments what you thought of the points raised and especially let us know if either Luke or I managed to change your mind about anything.

BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS: Let’s talk nativity

He has a lot of very superficial and scientifically illiterate things to say about gay and trans citizens as well as the proper (baby-making) role of women. But the most ridiculous and most obviously false claim he makes is that there are no contradictions in the Bible. He even says that anyone who finds a biblical contradiction will be the first person in the history of humanity to do it.

I’m acquainted with a street preacher called Dale. I’m hoping to debate him on line fairly soon. He’s agreed in principle but seems a little reluctant to come up with a date.

Dale makes some pretty outrageous claims. He states evolution is a lie, regularly using what I’m pretty sure he thinks is a clever, even witty line:

“Don’t let evolution make a monkey out of you”

We’ll, Dale. Here we go… I found some. Presumably, since you love the truth so much you’ll stop saying there aren’t any from now on.

Discussing God and atheism with a Calvinist presup

Ryan Matus is a presuppositional, Calvinist Christian. He’s no fool and he certainly knows scripture. This online conversation was one of the most interesting and enjoyable I can remember and I’m certainly looking forward to talking more with Ryan.